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Kettlenetics kBell is not kettlebell training

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Are you a kettlebell aficionado? If so, you are still in the minority of the American public. When you first found kettlebells, you probably evangelized the training to everyone who would listen… and (obnoxiously) to many who wouldn’t. In fact, your friends and family often make fun of your “cattle-ball” training. I bet someone even made you a kettlebell shaped birthday cake. Sound familier? If so, then I would bet you’ve heard the following phrase at least a dozen times in the last month:

“Hey, I was watching TV the other day and saw an infomercial about your kettleball thingies.”

That’s right. Kettlebell training has finally hit mainstream with a full-blown infomercial!
…or has it?

I finally had the chance to watch the Kettlenetics infomercial this weekend. I was expecting a kettlebell infomercial, so I was surprised and disappointed by what I saw at first glance. Kettlenetics is very clearly not kettlebell training. It sort of looks like kettlebell training. But it isn’t.

First of all, you see this tiny paperweight of a 4 pound kettlebell. Scratch that: at least they had the grace to rename it a kBell. A first-time kettlebell user (particularly a woman) should not be able to bottoms-up press an appropriately sized kettlebell. The star of this production, Michelle Khai, can hold the kBell level with one hand by a single horn!

4 pounds won’t activate your glutes, thighs, hamstrings, or core. Unless you are 3 years old. That’s the point of kettlebell training. There are, however, plenty of great ways to stay fit. You can go running, ride a stationary bike, or lift traditional free weights. It’s all good.

We’ve established that Kettlenetics can’t be classified as kettlebell training...
... but is it a bad product?

Well, I don’t know. I’ve only seen the infomercial. Which, as you’d expect, includes quite a few compelling success stories. I’d have to classify Kettlenetics as a bodyweight/dance fitness program. The majority of the resistance shown in the infomercial comes from the bodies of the participants… not from the kBell. From what I see, they’d get exactly the same workout by holding an imaginary kBell throughout. Think air guitar kettlebell.

For someone who hasn’t left the couch in years, jumping into a Kettlenetics workout will certainly be considered moderate to heavy exercise. For that kind of person, any exercise is good exercise. If paying $60 for a DVD and interesting device gets you moving, it’s worth the money. Just be aware that this isn’t anywhere near as effective as real kettlebell training.

I think it’s important to understand the real reason we aren’t seeing a true kettlebell training infomercial. It’s about money.

Michelle Khai is the Chief Science Officer for Kettlebell Concepts. You may not like Kettlebell Concepts because of a religious devotion to one training camp or another. But, you have to admit that it is certainly teaching real kettlebell training when compared to what you see in the Kettlenetics infomercial. Michelle has been a part of that for years. So, why isn’t it reflected in this mainstream marketing effort?

Because, Kettlenetics is owned and trademarked by Gaiam Americas, Inc.  The infomercial is produced and distributed by the same kind of Direct Response (DR) marketing machine that brought you products like the Ginzu knife and the ThighMaster.

In the 1980s, just about any ludicrous product could be packaged for DR TV advertising campaigns and make millions. A huge industry grew around DR, and the guys behind this industry learned exactly what triggers a middle class American to pick up the phone and pay $29.95. Today, however, DR is on its deathbed due to thousands of available channels, the internet, and the Tivo fast forward button.

But, these dinosaur DR marketers are still plugging away. And, they’ll keep selling with the rules they’ve learned over decades. A few years ago, I had a hand in advising a top-notch kettlebell instructor who was attempting to reach out to some infomercial producers. Two of the top names gave him exactly the same responses:

“Can’t do this product unless the kettleball is under 10 pounds.”
“Can’t do it your way because it looks dangerous and hard.”

Luckily, he wouldn't compromise.

They are correct, of course. The DR business model will not support a full size kettlebell. Shipping and material costs on a 16kg kettlebell would push it well beyond the “just 2 payments of $29.95” acceptable limit. And besides, I don’t see how an infomercial presenter can say, “Get in shape without breaking a sweat in just 10 minutes per day!” while featuring footage of a real kettlebell workout.

I doubt that Kettlenetics exists because Michelle Khai wanted to expose the masses to kettlebell training in an easy, safe way. It more likely exists because Gaiam required her to make heavy compromises so that this product could fit into an established DR marketing box that will guarantee short-term profits.

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Comments

Comment By Zorbs on Saturday, July 12, 2008 at 9:14 PM

Kettlenetics makes me sad..playing on to the myth that a woman will bulk up if she picks up any weight heavier than 10 pounds...because as you said, the bottom line is MONEY MONEY MONEY. The instructor could have taken her training and used it to promote real kettlebell training to the masses, but instead chooses to cater to the lowest common denominator.

Comment By EnergyFlow on Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 5:21 PM

So if Pavel showed everyone a Kettlenetic style work out on his first DVD , would that then be considered "Real" kettlebell training?

Don't critizize Michelle Khai just because she has been creative and developed different ways of using a kettlebell .

4lbs or 40lbs - either way, a kettlebell is still Awesome !


Comment By AJ on Friday, July 25, 2008 at 8:14 AM

Wow I'm surprised that someone who seems so knowledgeable about fitness is so ignorant of how a system like kettlenetics work. No, using a 4 lb weight creates a much different dynamic in your exercise routine then using nothing at all. It's in the swinging motion that is incorporated into the routine that creates resistance in the workout. Without that resistance, the workout would be no less then a walk in the park.

It uses a smaller kettlebell because the weight is geared to a special way of exercising that deviates from normal kettlebell routines. Using a 32 lb weight and trying to incorporate it into a ballet/yoga routine would be ridiculous. Michelle used the special design of the kettlebell and MODIFIES it towards her routine. It's innovation.

With a broader market, fitness professionals have really come a long way in providing a variety of fitness options that has become more adaptable, more fun, and more efficient.

Comment By John Galt on Saturday, July 26, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Looks to me like he's more saying it's not kettlebell training rather than it's bad...

Comment By Gwen on Saturday, July 26, 2008 at 3:17 PM

As a Kettlebell aficionado I can see why Kettlenetics you would rub you the wrong way. A lot of Pilates purists felt the same way about Mari Winsor when she began marketing Winsor Pilates, just like weight training devotees balked at Charles Atlas.
Kettlenetics is just a different methodology.

I'd never heard of Kettlebells before although I've worked with free weights on & off for over 25 years. The Kettlenetics infomercial prompted me to want to learn more about this type of weight; and while I look forward to doing the Kettlenetics program, I also look forward to eventually moving on to a traditional Kettlebell workout in the future. You may want to vomit at the thought of K-bells and the accompanying working, but that silly little infomercial will probably do more to help bring awareness to Kettlebells than anything else could.

Comment By LKB Editor on Saturday, July 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM

Hi Gwen. Thanks for commenting! You are probably right. Kettlenetics may well provide the biggest promotional bump to the category of kettlebell training to date. On the upside, there doesn't seem to be anything dangerous about it. So maybe it will be a good entry vehicle for folks to find kettlebells and move on to larger sizes.

That "vomit" commit was a bit too strong in retrospect. While I'm not nearly the fanatical kettlebell zealot as many you find out there, could be my reaction was a bit tinged with some of that.

Comment By Keller on Sunday, July 27, 2008 at 11:00 AM

I don't know who wrote this article, but all I have to say is MEOW.

Comment By LKB Editor on Sunday, July 27, 2008 at 11:11 AM

Written by the owner of liftkettlebells.com, Jeff Waters. What do you mean by Meow?

Comment By kev on Friday, August 01, 2008 at 11:48 AM

I do kettlebells, Clubbells and Indian Clubs - bought Kettlenetics for my wife and she loves it. Additionally, I got some great ideas for my Indian Club / Mini-Clubbell workout from the DVDs. Granted, I won't be doing MOST of the Kettlenetics workout with a 35 lb bell, but as I believe Mr DiLuglio pointed out in a dvd, kettlebells aren't about LIFTING weight but moving weight through ranges of motion to help recover mobility, flexibility and strength. I do 30 minutes every morning with 5lb mini-clubbells - not very strength intensive, but a hell of a morning mobility workout. Let's treat Kettlenetics the same way - maybe not a great strength workout, but nice flow and mobility work

Comment By Rake V on Monday, August 04, 2008 at 5:06 PM

No kettlenetics isn't actual kettleball training.

It is however a way for the chronically out of shape ( which comprises 70 per cent of Americans) to get an introduction to kettleballs and some viable low impact movement. Small, steady, growing steps are usually the way to success.

When I started lifting weights, I could curl 5 pounds. Now I bench over 400, squat close to 6 hundred. I use 35 and higher KBs.

The more ambitious will seek heavier KBs as they progress. The rest will get a gentle workout that might burn some fat or take that ache in the small back away.

I wouldn't be expecting to see an informercial for heavy KB training anytime
soon. This is a sport that requires intense effort. And its an athletic, elitist pursuit. Not everyone is a twenty year old jock.

Anyway I bought the kettlenetic set for my sister who has had chronic pain and movement issues. Its helping her move with greater flow and making her muscles more supple. The four pound bell is a good thing for her. I can see obese, sickly and those short on time getting a workout at their level with kettlenetics.

Being open to innovation and revision can only mean good things for kettlebells in general. Lets keep our minds open.

Rake V

Comment By LKB Editor on Monday, August 04, 2008 at 5:18 PM

Thanks Rake, we appreciate all points of view here. Hope to see you around these parts more often.

Comment By fit me on Monday, August 11, 2008 at 10:34 PM

I purchased the kbell workout with michelle K.
I have done the workout 4 times, i can tell you I am sweating a whole lot, can really feel the workout, and am used to doing the firm transirmation system, and was using 12 pound weights with it, and the last time i did that workout, i already felt stronger from using the 4 pound kbell. so i hope that helps someone that is considering the kettlenetics workout.

Comment By Jena on Friday, August 22, 2008 at 2:36 PM

I saw the kettlenetics on TV. I ordered it. Since it took forever to arrive in the meantime I went looking online about kettlebells which I'd never heard of. Again since it took forever to arrive I ended up buying some kettlebells from Target.(15 and 20lb) I also got a book from Lisa Shaffer and started finding my way with kettlebells. My kettlenetics finally arrived but I don't care to do it now. But if I hadn't ordered it and it hadn't taken so long to arrive I might never have found out about Kettlebells at all. So in a round about way it did get me interested in Kettlebells.

Comment By IGxmole on Thursday, September 04, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Kettlenetics is no less "real kettlebell training" than Pavel's programs. When Valery Fedorenko, a world champion in kettlebell lifting, started teaching, everyone realized that many of the techniques Pavel shows were created in USA to use kettlebells (like the turkish getup and deck squat). Is what Pavel's teaching "not real kettlebell training" because it's not what Valery Fedorenko teaches?
It's just a tool. Maybe we should call them rabbiesballs, because using them makes people crazy idiots like old kungfu lineage BS.

Comment By Derek Frazier on Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 7:18 AM

I think she is a great instructor
she has an incredible body and attitude

Kettlenetics seems like a high end program for those that wish to move freely and not in a lifting type frame of mind.

HOWEVER,
it is not KB lifting, it is a program that is going to get people to move with a small weight.

I consider heavy hands walking to be on the same scale and modality as Kettlenetics.

Comment By Randi on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM

So I understand that is develops range of motion and flexibility, but does it tone and burn fat as is advertised on the website?

Comment By SABRA HARDY on Monday, January 12, 2009 at 9:52 PM

I BOUGHT THE KETTLENETICS SYSTEM both the 4lb and 8lb weight and no i didn't see any improvement, now i'm waiting for my Goddess workout and From Russia with tough love and Mike Mahler dvds to get some real results, i bought it don't buy it if you want to see results and lose lots of weight it's a waste of time now to people making speculations stop. because i did the research and i don't see how it helps.

Comment By urbankettlebell on Sunday, January 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM

its not kettlebell training, you could get the same results from hip hop abs if you've never worked out before. Its just a way to get women to buy a product you can get better results with training with a real kettlebell.

Comment By Melissa Laurel on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 at 1:55 AM

Well, my comment I think is going to come from a very different place than many here. (I just found this page while googling kettlenetics, btw) I was close to 300 pounds, am a fairly advanced exerciser & now closer to 230. It took many years because I have chronic pain going back to my teens. I'd work out, have an episode of muscle spasms, be told by my Dr's not to workout. I have to say sometimes it was right to listen, other times it was best to ignore them. I learned this early on, as far as knowing my body better than they did in *some* cases. I regained my balance, which was messed up due to a bad episode that put me on my back for months, all on my own. Before I knew about balance training I decided to put myself off balance on purpose just to be able to regain my balance & get up from the couch without falling back down. I do some traditional KB training now & enjoy it. I also, though, am a bellydancer. I am looking into kettlenetics not because I want a traditional kettlebell workout. I'm looking for input from folks who are dancers, but those kinds of reviews are sorely lacking. People aren't so helpful when all they can do (and I'm not blaming most folks here of that at all, well... a few, LOL , but not all) is criticize it for not being KB training. If you aren't die-hard KB purists then you tend to say it's good for folks who only sit on their butts & need to get fit. Well, that's not me in either case. I want something that I can add to my rotation that I can enjoy yet gives me that KB feel, even though it's not purely KB. I still haven't ordered just because I'm picky when it comes to dance technique & how it's incorporated into a workout. How is this in view of somebody who has a dance background ? I don't know, but maybe somebody else out there does. I will say this much. As a bellydancer, drilling veil technique with a veil which weighs almost nothing if it is silk or silk chiffon, or maybe as much as 2lb for a heavier fabric, 3 yds worth, can tire your arms very quickly. It feels like your shoulders are trying to support a very heavy weight just because of the range of motion, the poise & technique of holding the arms just so as you manipulate the veil, etc... That fabric, no matter how light, can really make all the difference. So, just because something is light doesn't mean it will have no effect. As a dancer I do know that adding even a very weight to movements we do use in dance can really make such a difference. I do lift heavy weights when I am ok'd to do so, and I kept pluggin' away even when I had set backs. I refused to let this condition take control of me. Now I am diagnosed with a thyroid condition also. I know hard work. I also know the value of lighter work too, though, so folks please don't poo-poo an idea right off the bat because it's not what you're used to. That said, not everybody is going to like everything & always agree.
Anyway, I hope y'all don't mind my long-winded response. I just thought perhaps you might appreciate my point of view as a dancer. :)

Comment By Huggy Kat on Saturday, February 07, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Great response, Melissa! And I agree with you. I was going to purchase this program, but with so much guff about it all on this web page alone, I think I'll hhold off and just stick with making my eating habits more healthy and just be more active. Thank for your message - I, for one, really appreciated it! ;)

Comment By Melissa on Sunday, February 08, 2009 at 4:43 AM

You are quite welcome ! I decided to hold off for now too. Turns out our troupe is going to start doing dance choreographies with a tambourine & I had to buy a good one (not one of the cheapo ones) for almost $40, which is the cost of the Kettlenetics kit pretty much.

Comment By Beth on Friday, February 13, 2009 at 1:13 PM

I am well aware that kettlenetics is not real kettleball training. Even so, I ordered the product, and let me tell you, after only three workouts...my rear is on fire! My core feels tight and my hammies are screaming. I am in good shape and I have done weight lifting in the past. Although you may not get huge and ripped with this program (hello, it's only 4lbs.) I think it is great so far. The small k-bell is very deceiving.

Comment By Sharon on Saturday, March 21, 2009 at 9:26 AM

I ordered kettlenetics and thought the workouts were motivating combined with ballet BUT the bell handle is so small that my hands could barely fit! I looked at the video and noticed the additional space they had...me none and I am petite!

When I called I got someone in a foreign land that could not respond to why the handle was smaller than the ones on the video...he stated to order the 8# and I asked has he seen them? NO and I cancelled!

Comment By cris on Friday, March 27, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Its not REAL. So what? Lots of things aren't "real". I am an older lady and if I would lift something like a real kettle ball, I would pee myself.

Comment By LW on Sunday, April 12, 2009 at 6:23 PM

I bought the kettlenetics off QVC instead of the infomercial because I had read reviews first, and many people seemed to have problems with the ordering part. At least with QVC, returning an item is much easier. I"ve used kettlenetics for 2 months and my upper stomach is firm, and flat. There are several DVD's with this system. Three of them really get me sweating. This isn't a hard-core pump it up workout, its a 'core' workout. I have spent 3 years at the gym, only to be sore and achey all the time. I seemed to have muscles, but I wanted the tone and lean look instead of buff. Through this program and my new career as a health coach for tsfl, I'm achieving my dream of being toned, trimmed, and limber (while in my 50's).. and all without the help of liposuction or other plastic surgeries. Find an exercise you enjoy, keep doing it, and you will become better fit, even if it isn't just kettlebells.

Comment By Renee on Monday, May 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM

I haven't ordered the kettlenetics program, yet, but I intend to. What I glean from all the comments, infomercial and youtube, you're using quick movements with the 4# kball that wouldn't work with a heavy kettlebell. The program seems to be more dancer-based, which I like and didn't get with traditional kettlebell training. I got bored with traditional kettlebell training because it's so similar to regular weight training; I have a ballroom dance background and get bored easily. But, my idea is to get the kettlenetics program to work more on core and aerobics AND I have the added benefit of the 4# kbell to help me transition on heavier kettlebell training when the next higher kettlebell is too much weight. I was going to go buy a 5# for this purpose, but now won't have to. Just think of kettlenetics and another form of exercise to give you variety in movement. You can't lift every day (unless you split train or something similar), but this program is small enough poundage to do daily.

Comment By KNau on Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Wasn't there a comedian who had a bit about little weights? Something along the lines of the front door to the gym offering more resistance?

Save your money...you could get the same workout holding a can of soup while "Sweatin' to the Oldies". It's like people who call those floppy rubber bands "resistance training". Give me a break!

An aerobic workout is fine but you're deluding yourself if you think you're going to put on lean muscle mass with a 4lb weight. And that you're going to get in shape without putting on lean muscle mass.

Yes, with the right techniques you can make 4lbs feel like 100lbs (read: make the muscle fail...eventually) but it's still 4lbs. It's not going to make the difference a real weight does and it's not going to change your resting metabolic rate as quickly or effectively.

The problem chronically overweight Americans face is that they keep buying slick promises and easy "systems" rather than sucking it up and doing what really works (and is much, much cheaper at that).

The problem all kettlebell fans are going to face now is hearing people say "I tried that but it didn't work very well". Truth is, no they haven't really "tried that".

Comment By Brigitte on Monday, June 01, 2009 at 9:34 AM

My husbands who is a fitness trainer introduce me to the Bell. He bought home a 15#. Which is too heavy for a fluid/ballet/yoga workout.

The big picture is gettting off your lazy butt to do SOMETHING. I purchased Kettlenetics because it was a change from my other routines.
I have a dance background and love yoga. I get bored easily.
I like the music too, but I need a little more resistance to challenge myself.

It works for ME. If it doesn't for someone else...Oh, well!

Not trying to win the Olympic gold medal in Kettlebell...like the rest of the critics.

Just wanna look fab in my bikini.


Comment By Lynn on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 at 9:56 AM

It would have been nice to read a review by someone who actually TRIED Kettlenetics. Sort of like reviewing a movie from watching the trailer.

Comment By Sharon L on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM

I bought it, tried it and returned it.

It looked like a great workout to shape and firm but poorly sized bell that you receive (not the same one as in video) are way to small for your hands - side by side! Like a too small rope on a small can of peas!

Will say the video was well done for learning the movements and moving onto the next steps was easy. Was thinking of writing Michelle Khai to let her know exactly why I returned it.

Prior to returning it, I looked for different sizes of Kbells...that is how I found this site and thank you for the education! :)

Comment By Huggy Kat on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 at 11:44 PM

I agree, Lynn, absolutely!

Comment By Melissa on Monday, June 22, 2009 at 2:39 PM

I bought the Kbell stuff a while back and really enjoy it. I'm not in bad shape (any more!) and the 40 min. cardio gets my HR up and has me sweating. It's a fun workout and I find the 10 min upper body gets my muscles to fatigue pretty easily.

My main exercise is running but this is a really nice cross training tool, IMO. Hey, I'm down 20+ lbs, 12 inches and went from a 12 to an 8 with running and the kbell in the last 3 months. It's working for me and I enjoy it. That's all tha matters, right?

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